The band members again go their separate ways following session work and previous commitments. Their being spread across the globe leads them to try different techniques for collaboration. Van Baelen composes one track on a four-track cassette machine and passes this onto Castle. He adds his own layer and subsequently passes the tape to Kazuki. A combination of postal collaboration and sessions whenever they can all convene in the same place results in material for the next album. It is quietly released but Kruger insists that he should have some input. Three songs of primitively recorded and inserted and the tape 'Hey Kinder' is released in September 1980.